[barfbagginus]

The photino birds want the universe to be populated with white dwarfs, because they can feed off their gravity wells without the risk of deadly supernovas and black holes, which can kill them.

After the xelee and humans leave, the universe becomes a cold place dominated by photino birds living in the cold pinpricks of white dwarfs. Eventually matter evaporates into photons, and the photino birds die.

However, it turns out photino birds can always just time travel to a time when the universe still had matter. So they're more or less indifferent to the eventual heat death .

See: https://xeelee.fandom.com/wiki/Photino_Birds

I hypothesize that there is may be only one photino bird. When it appears to die, it is just traveling to another time. When we see multiple photino birds, we're just looking at different segments of the same bird's world line. These are my own speculations, inspired by Wheeler's idea that the universe has only one electron, which travels back in time as a positron, and interacts with itself so many times that it creates the observable universe of matter:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

[codyd51]

One potential hiccup with your one-photino-bird-universe theory (which is quite fun!): I believe I remember a scene in which the ‘birth’ of a photino bird was described. If I remember correctly, it was indeed described as a clone of its parent.

[kloop]

As long as we only see one birth, that's probably fine. It just implies a stable time loop.

[pavel_lishin]

> However, Photino Birds carry with them one unassailable advantage the Xeelee could not overcome; they are not bound by time. They can freely exist in and travel to any point in time. The creatures do not age nor die naturally, not even by the end of the universe; they just travel back to the beginning of time, including to points so soon after the Big Bang that baryonic matter (including the Xeelee) could not yet exist.

Where is this described in the books? I don't remember the Photino Birds having this ability.