[bluenomatterwho]

Right? What are people on about?? There are a few buildings still standing. Some kids are still starving, it's not like they were all killed by bombs. Hopefully the final invasion will be successful and resettlement can begin, right? It's important we take the long view and not get bogged down by one hospital or another.

[megaman821]

If the population would rather risk starvation and being bombed over returning the hostages and not supporting Hamas, what conclusions can we draw from that? Either, that the population majority supports Hamas, or that they fear Hamas more than they fear getting bombed.

The war would end almost instantly with the return of the hostages and a handful of Hamas leaders.

[bluenomatterwho]

Hamas was propped up by the Likud government in order to delegitimize the PLO. All of the fishy events of Oct 7th aside, the point is the annexation of Gaza. At this point the people under apartheid have little recourse. All the better for Likud that Likud has funded them. Children did not take hostages. The world is aware of the dehumanization of Palestinian kids by the IDF, etc. Just say you support killing kids in order to annex and settle Gaza.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-04-15/israel...

[csmpltn]

> "Just say you support killing kids in order to annex and settle Gaza."

Sounds to me like you yourself support the killing of kids (both Israeli and Palestinian), to further the Palestinian cause.

The war could end in an instant if Hamas surrendered and returned all hostages. Not something you would like to see happen though, and not something the protesters ever call for. I wonder why?

[megaman821]

Your conspiracy theory makes no sense. If Gaza's motivation is to stop Israel from annexing all their land, why is it not the best move to replace leadership, return the hostages and turn that goodwill into a formally recognized statehood? Instead, they provide no proof of life of the hostages and fire rockets at Israeli civilians, making it all more the likely that the size of the demilitarized zone will continue to increase to appease the safety fears of Israeli citizens.

[bluenomatterwho]

Much of what I've cited (would you like links?) could be a maximalist position. Oct 7th was fishy, this is reported in Israeli media as well. The point is annexation. It would be built atop the blood of children and some will celebrate this.

[bluenomatterwho]

My conspiracy theory...? Formally recognized statehood...? What planet are you on?

[csmpltn]

Something tells me you weren't protesting when innocent Israeli people were being mercilessly slaughtered on October the 7th, but you'll gladly sit there and paint an entire false narrative about a war, based on events that never happened, twitter/reddit memes, and your silly version of reality. A war which many people agree is justified, despite being difficult to conduct (in probably the most difficult conditions and circumstances of any war in modern human history) - but you'll just pretend like those people don't matter, their opinions are worthless, and that you have it all figured out (thanks to TikTok).

Hence it's worth repeating Sundar's message, especially for self-centered phony hypocrites like you: keep your politics at home where they belong. Educate yourself about the world. Accept that things aren't black or white. Other people have opinions, too.

[bluenomatterwho]

I'm independent so that isn't a problem for me. My response was to this mention of the 'credibility' of experts regarding one hospital. Gaza is obliterated. The repeated and deliberate targeting of World Central Kitchen aid workers may have arisen from very difficult conditions and circumstances indeed. Something tells me you're ready to settle atop that bloody soil. 'Educate yourself about the world' gave me a chuckle. Accept that there is right and wrong.