[infecto]

What arbitrary rules? I am simply saying that it is impossible to underwrite for anyone, including the government, buildings that are built in known high risk zones.

Just because a city is near a port does not mean that exact spot of land is a flood zone. Just because you live in a fire prone region does not mean your house cannot be covered. There are a lot of ways to retrofit homes for fire prone areas including landscaping changes.

You’re entirely correct that there are threats to buildings everywhere. My point is that most state/government programs treat areas that are impossible to underwrite. I am suggesting that in those cases perhaps it’s more cost effective to not underwrite the risk. You could shape it different ways, from not underwriting it at all to underwriting the risk but on a loss, paying for the relocation not rebuild.

This has nothing to do with being a public good and more that zones that are known complete loss high risk zones should be mitigated. Yes nature exists everywhere but you can generally underwrite things when your entire pool is not experiencing a total loss.

Is suggesting a home built in a flood zone should not be rebuilt arbitrary? Is suggesting homeowners in high risk fire zones take the steps to alter their landscaping to reduce risk arbitrary? You are sharing all these feel good sentiments and I am simply saying it’s not feasible to underwrite these activities.

[DoreenMichele]

Woah, I don't have any idea why you are characterizing my remarks as "sharing all these feel good sentiments."

Society is supposed to help individuals thrive so society thrives. That's how a sane culture works.

Figuring out where to draw the line between benefits to individuals that help society thrive versus benefits to individuals that undermine society is what gets argued over if you want a functional world.

Dog-eat-dog, screw you, up yours, not my problem attitudes fundamentally end up coming back to bite people.

If that's where you are at currently: Sorry you got burned or whatever. But it's not a mental framing that fosters good business.

I'm done with this discussion.

[infecto]

I still don’t follow the logic but I would love to. If you have some specific ideas it would be great. Are you suggesting the government underwrites all risk no matter what? Are you suggesting to get rid of commercial insurance companies?

Perhaps the feel good statement comes off inflammatory but everything you said are nice ideas but lack how it actually get implemented. I am only suggesting that I am not sure having the government underwrite risk is a good idea, these funds are often underfunded and not underwriting the actual cost of loss correctly. It is funny because I don’t like the current constructs of health insurance in America but I think other forms of insurance work. On that side I think a form of a single payer system would work better, probably what you envision but not shared is like.

Again my point is simply that I think it can make sense for the government to underwrite if it requires moving those individuals out and not providing coverage to new homes that are in a flood zone. But I don’t think economically it works out going forward to just cover everything and anything.

[DoreenMichele]

But I don’t think economically it works out going forward to just cover everything and anything.

This is not a thing I ever suggested.

I have no idea why you are inferring that I did.

[infecto]

Then share your idea like I have with mine. You made multiple examples towards a fire departments and police forces. How else can anyone infer what you mean then? If you don’t want to share then just don’t but it is silly to respond by picking apart my statements alone.