[jjav]

> A city with a park nearby where your kids will actually meet other kids to play with?

Have you been to San Francisco? Addicts and homeless take over all parks. While I emphatize with their difficult situation, I don't want my child exposed to that.

> "Kids don't need a big yard to play, they need other kids" - and living in a denser area provides more kids.

Out here in suburbs,lots of kids (since most families with kids move to the suburbs) and many parks and none of the problems of a dense city.

As a 20-something I want(ed) to live in a dense city for the parties & people & bars. As a parent of a child, I want to be as far as possible from a dense city.

[AnthonyMouse]

> Have you been to San Francisco? Addicts and homeless take over all parks.

The high amount of homelessness may have something to do with the housing shortage.