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> people are making the case that the consequences of scamming are worse than human trafficking

I’m not making that case, but I am sure a trafficking component doesn’t apply as much as being suggested here to the Kitboga, Pierogi, and Jim Browning videos considering where those scammers originate and the types of scams they are pulling. If you watch their videos, scammers are far too proud and smug about what they are doing even when called out. Even if they are forced, their joy and lack of concern for their victims make them complicit.

Also, I can certainly feel sorry for someone forced by another into that situation under threat, but that does not mean we shouldn’t protect those getting scammed under some altruistic assumption that the scammer on the other end of the line might be being forced to do this against their will, and might have violence perpetrated against them because their scam was thwarted. In other words, I think it’s better to stop the evil you know is happening as opposed to ignoring and hoping your inaction somehow prevents an evil that you don’t know for sure is happening.

[bumby]

Sure, I get that. The major distinction in our views is my rating of severity. Because I weigh the human trafficking aspect as much more severe, that probability can be much less certain and still have a higher risk in my eyes. Again, risk = severity * probability. And I think it’s important to differentiate between the probability of someone trying to scam, and the probability of it working. It’s definitely a big problem, but not a commensurate risk IMO.