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by neffy 799 days ago
It of course depends on how you cut and slice it, and also on the categorisation of black - but we are talking about approximately 2-3 billion people there if we include India, Indonesia, Africa and the rest of the world.

Can you point to a study that has comprehensively assessed that total population? Or just a few studies by Americans, who make their own racial biases, which from a cynical perspective can be boiled down to rampant and cruel exploitation over several centuries, abundantly clear in the articles concerned?

Immigrants across the world tend to be a slightly self selecting class of folks - why would black immigrants be any different on that front?

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Can you point to anyone other than yourself who calls Indonesians black? Because I think otherwise it's not worthwhile discussing categorization and measurement in good faith with you.
South Asians are a wholly different and distinct group. Most Indonesians are South-East Asian, except for Chinese migrants and those living on the island of New Guinea. Africa is a continent, not a race.

What you're saying is all over the place. And I'm not here to discuss politics.

South Asians in the UK in the 80s and 90s were classed as black, n____, etc.
Yup, I"m British and can confirm this was the case and it makes just as much sense as any other categorisation of black. Its almost as if race is a made up social construct. Even within Africa there are many different ethnicities, many of which are not very represented amongst African Americans, which is probably what the majority of people here see as black. That's just a subset of West Africans who are pretty mixed at this point.
>I"m British and can confirm this was the case

Ok, so there's a single country that allegedly had one category for anybody who's "brown". This does not matter at all.

>it makes just as much sense as any other categorisation of black. Its almost as if race is a made up social construct

Until someone needs a transplant. Or takes a genetic test. Or a legitimate anthropology course. Or when you need to call someone a racist.

Bro race is still made up in those scenarios. Somalis, Ethiopians, Zulus and African Americans are all black. None of these groups are the same ethnicity at all. Categorising them as "black" means nothing about their genetics. It means nothing about their culture. It means nothing about their medical outcomes.
>Bro race is still made up in those scenarios.

"Bro", race is a trivial fact to me. To you it's an ideological tenet.

>None of these groups are the same ethnicity at all.

I already explained this to you in another comment. You aren't saying anything new or interesting. Also, Somalis and Ethiopians are part of the same Northern East African genetic cluster.