[kylehotchkiss]

Rather than looking at USA as Scandinavian county, imagine living in some of the counties in the global south. The competition for good jobs is so intense that you’ll work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week. You won’t miss work if you’re sick or have a family event because then somebody else gets your job. Culturally second chances don’t exist, and you’re the only chance your children have to get through school (because you have to pay for it) and for your parents to retire in peace (because they live with you and you care for them). Heaven forbid you get sick. There’s barely a regulatory system for doctors. The doctor takes your temperature but wasn’t trained to sanitize the thermometer correctly. You are now double sick and don’t have somewhere safe to isolate because your rented home has 2 rooms and no ability to ventilate. Your family is now sick, and your children’s school has no mercy for missing class. The children have to compete in complicated exams to even have the sliver of a chance to land themselves in a good university. Otherwise, they’re just gonna live in your footsteps. Oh and don’t take out a loan, because when you do and somehow your entire contact list lands in your lenders hands, every contact on the list will hear about your debt for the next several months.

I’m just demonstrating here but this is an example of the stressful life many people around the world are living. We are blessed to be in the USA.

[the_af]

Which countries in the "global south" are you talking about? I live in South America and life is not like this. Like, nothing at all like this; you might as well be describing Narnia or Middle Earth and it would sound just as fantastical.

Just as some examples:

Doctors are quite good here, none of that untrained nonsense you mentioned.

You have safety nets.

If you work formally employed (which granted is not a minor detail, since informal employment is a big problem), you have plenty of sick days, and these are mandated by law; so not at the mercy of the company.

Vacations are mandated by law to be paid according to how long you've been at the company. Nobody can fire you for taking vacations; it's about 2 weeks vacation once you've been working for a year. This is by law, the company is of course free to sweeten the deal.

Our best university is public and free.

While life is not easy for somebody without a family to support them or a good job, the reality is nowhere close to what you imagined.

Now, this is one country and I'm aware the "global south" is large and varied. I'm sure other countries have it worse. But it makes me suspect your global description of the south.

Etc, etc.

[kylehotchkiss]

I am referring to the "global south" as in the UN definition, which is probably a little dated and could use a revisit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South) Much of these observations from spending a few years living in Southeast Asia. I've been to the untrained doctors. Watched them practice with unclean tools (did not accept care...). The vast majority of people will never achieve formal employment.

[ciupicri]

There are no doubt way worse places than the US.

I was under the impressions that Americans work hard too. For example, if I'm not mistaking there's no mandated minimum number of vacation days, so you might get only 11 compared to 20 in most European countries.

> Heaven forbid you get sick.

The medical act is (very) good in the US, but is it affordable?

> The children have to compete in complicated exams to even have the sliver of a chance to land themselves in a good university.

Doesn't the same apply to the US as well? You either have lots of money, or good grades or you're good athlete.

[vladgur]

> The medical act is (very) good in the US, but is it affordable?

The answer is....it depends.

If youre at poverty levels you would qualify for federal-level Medicaid insurance. learning about these benefits takes some digging. Some states(often democrat) provide their omedical benefit coverage for people who are at or below poverty line(which is itself a locale-specific metric).

If youre upper-middle-class or work for the government, you have good medical insurance through your employer or by paying $$$$$ out of pocket.

Anything between these two -- youre probably underserved in terms of medical coverage and you probably only see the inside of hospitals via emergency rooms.

[the_af]

This also describes the situation in some countries of the "global south". Not sure why the original commenter thought the US was so different.

[chgs]

20 days? The norm is 30-40 in the U.K (9ish bank holidays plus 20 minimum but many professional jobs are 25-30). I can’t imagine mainland Europe is worse.

[ciupicri]

The required minimum is 20 days in Romania + 2 for Easter + 2 for Christmas + a couple of other holy and secular days. Though if they're during the weekend, better luck next time.

[dkdbejwi383]

> The competition for good jobs is so intense that you’ll work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week. You won’t miss work if you’re sick or have a family event because then somebody else gets your job. Culturally second chances don’t exist, and you’re the only chance your children have to get through school (because you have to pay for it) and for your parents to retire in peace (because they live with you and you care for them). Heaven forbid you get sick.

I'll be honest, as a non-American, I thought you were describing the USA in these sentences. I quite frequently read things online/see videos etc where Americans are shocked that we can take several weeks or a month off for a holiday in Europe, that if we're sick we just take time off, there's no worry about being fired for getting sick, or needing to work in order to qualify for health insurance. Education isn't free everywhere, but in most places people acquire much less debt than it seems you do in the USA.