[ativzzz]

> Getting a spouse and 4 kids is a bit more involved

Raising 4 kids without community support is extremely challenging - the church involvement here is more crucial than you think

[eru]

Agreed. I just stopped commenting on the code point by point after a while.

Church (or other community) involvement is also people can decide to get into. Whether you're religious or not, though I admit being a-religious would make it a bigger compromise.

[BaculumMeumEst]

Exactly right. I had the full quote for a reason.