[cjk2]

That's not the metric I am comparing.

I am comparing safety culture. A bad safety culture has the propensity to do serious harm to people and should be called out.

When a business, read Boeing/Tesla/Toyota, cover up safety claims they can no longer be trusted with any decision where your safety is considered. That applies to being the victim of a safety outcome as well i.e. you do not own the product but it hurts you in some way.

FAA grounded entire Boeing types. There is not that oversight in the commercial car industry.

[philistine]

The whole Toyota episode with the phantom acceleration does not equate with a bad company culture. The problem was too complex and complicated for the company to grok, and they had unbelievably bad PR.

I mean, most of the Toyota incidents are of people in a new car, who messed up pedals. It happens, do not discard it!