[KingOfCoders]

And 1945. Double whammy. Germany never made a comeback.

The anti-science culture revolution of the 1970s cemented this. It's cool to be bad in science in schools since then, every celebrity boasts about how bad they were in mathematics etc.

[nforgerit]

German here. It's actually true that you see a lot of "public intellectuals" that publicly tell how bad they were at math.

I only realized that when Merkel as chancellor back in Covid times, after numerous meetings with other politicians and non-scientists, found herself explaining exponential growth on a press conference with her fingers.

Not sure about the 1970s hypothesis, though.

[KingOfCoders]

German here. Grew up in the 70s with anti-intellectual TV-shows (like Rappelkiste).

[48864w6ui]

Despite that Germany did manage to elect a p-chemist as BK.

[brcmthrowaway]

Interesting idea.. but ABleton comes out of germany!

[KingOfCoders]

I think Germany has been quite good in practical research (see world leading companies, especially smaller ones in niche markets you never heard of), not so in science (think Nobel Prize winners).

[brcmthrowaway]

How about Zeiss?