[nmeagent]

> I think the snake oil claim is in regard to VPN companies marketing themselves as a security product

Considering that confidentiality is a vital component of overall security, it's not necessarily unreasonable to describe a VPN as a security product. Of course, it's not the panacea some companies claim; nobody's "surfing the web in full security and privacy" with just a VPN service.

[the_snooze]

We already have really good client-server confidentiality (and integrity) assurances from the wide adoption of TLS/HTTPS. Wrapping that in a VPN doesn't buy you all that much additional security. Maybe a little bit of DNS privacy and being able to mask your IP address on torrents, but that's all that comes to mind.