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by evincarofautumn
5137 days ago
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We seem to be saying the same thing; I just don’t see any inherent meaning in it. A literal interpretation of meta- would have us define it like this: Instance ::= 0
Meta(X) ::= Succ(X)
But it’s much more convenient to define meta- recursively: Instance ::= 0
Meta(X) ::= Succ(X)
| Meta(Succ(X))
In both cases, we have an arbitrary designation: Class ::= Succ(Instance)
That kind of redundancy is a linguistic artifact, not a deeply meaningful one.It’s not the case that reaching the second level of abstraction necessarily results in enough flexibility to make the inductive step. As a counterexample, consider C macros, which only add one meta- because they are only expanded once. Lisp macros, on the other hand, are expanded until a fixed point is found. That’s why Lisp macros are Turing-complete while the C preprocessor is only a pushdown automaton. |
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Common Lisp macro bodies are written in Common Lisp, i.e. written in a Turing-complete language — they would still be Turing-complete even if we wrote them in the subset Lisp-without-macros. The C preprocessor, on the other hand, does not invoke a Turing-complete language to compute a macro's expansion.