[liamneesonsarm]

All the boosts had queued with cheaters.

I do agree though that this could have false-positives. Right now anyone marked as guilty a moderator had went through and looked at stats or a demo if not sure.

Which boosted ones looks skeptical to you?

Im wondering if i should have information about who reviewed the report and have something written up in steps taken for proof. Thoughts?

[cowthulhu]

How do you tell the difference between someone being boosted by a cheater, and someone playing with their friend, who they don’t know is a cheater? I think the distinction to me is whether there is reasonable doubt. If a player has a VAC ban, sure, not much doubt there. But queuing with cheaters seems murkier! I’m not sure how you’d prove boosting by watching a replay, but I could be missing something.

[liamneesonsarm]

Yes that’s a good question and something I’ll take into account when reviewing. TBH these reports are all the obvious ones. Like straight up aim lock or spinning. I basically just took people queuing with them because they 100% know they’re cheating. You’ll notice there are several that have “needs more evidence” and I personally viewed the stats and found them inconclusive. I tried a demo but it was expired so it got the needs more evidence status and I emailed the reported to add more context.

If there is someone you see that you feel is misreported I’m happy to explain or delete it if wrong. Maybe I need a “contest report” feature so you can make your case for why it’s a false report.

[cowthulhu]

I think the concept is somewhat fatally flawed, so I don’t really have any suggestions about how to improve it.

I totally get that I’m just throwing a bunch of problems at you without providing solutions, sorry I know that’s not very fun to deal with. It definitely shows through that you are doing this with good intentions!

I hope you figure out solid solutions to the issues… if in five years I’m playing on servers that use a version of your system to do a better job of keeping the cheaters/griefers off, I will definitely owe you one!

[liamneesonsarm]

All good I appreciate you voicing your opinion. I’m not 100% sold either but it’s worth a shot and I’m a new Dad so have had time on my hands and wanted to build something. Dealing with cheaters is also time consuming and frustrating.

Hope that I see you in five years too

[viraptor]

Smurfing and throwing is totally subjective though. I've played on really bad days that someone could classified as throwing and then I regained rank quickly which someone could clarify as smurfing. I've also tried playing some moba and after my 4th game I got placed in their cheater purgatory. Why? No idea, I didn't even understand all the game mechanics yet. So yeah, I would totally expect grey area, even with human review of the demos.

[liamneesonsarm]

These are all good points and I think you’re right. I’ll most likely get rid of smurfs and throwers as a report since it makes sense the grey area.