"The problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have no taste and I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way" - Steve Jobs
>In the News and Stocks apps, the display ads are no different than what you might get on an ad-supported website (see above). [...]
>On the App Store, display ads are currently shown in the search tab in the Suggested panel. Apple will also soon expand ads to the main Today tab and within third-party app download pages. Search ads in the App Store are a bit different: Developers can pay to have their app featured in results when a user searches terms like “car racing” or “basketball,” for instance.
So Google's business model of having ads in the search results was problematic even before they started spying on the whole world to enable larger profits from targeted ads?
Just go into the Settings app and you'll see "get Apple Arcade for free 3 months" under your name, and a bright red badge telling you your "free iCloud storage is full" and pushing you to pay for more storage, despite you disabling iCloud storage and repeatedly trying to make the badge go away. Or maybe the home screen notifications that tell you your iCloud storage is full on your lock screen. Or the pushes that try to get you to sign up for AppleTV+. Those ads.
The search menu, all first party apps, app store, push notifications, even the settings pages all have ads, and the ad surface has been increasing with every update. The exact ad in this screenshot has been on iOS for many years. People who fail to acknowledge it or move the goal posts are heavily drinking the kool aid.
Go search for something on your phone. There's a bar with "Siri Suggestions" right up top showing apps you should install (exactly the same as this Windows screenshot).
Open any first-party app on the OS (News, Stocks, Maps, Books, Fitness, Wallet and more) and every surface has ads.
Go to the App Store and search for something. The top results are always ads. Go to an app page and you will see more suggested apps at the bottom. Most of the store is sponsored content.
I have yet to go a few weeks without getting an unsolicited push notification asking me to subscribe to Apple Music, Apple One, Apple TV, Apple News, Fitness+, iCloud.
The freaking settings app has ads for Apple services.
The two companies are the same, the only real difference being that Apple users have blinders on.
I turn Siri off because it's just not useful for me, so I don't see the Siri Suggestions. But I hate how it badgers me about setting Siri up in the Settings app every update. I have to turn it on and then off to get rid of the banner.
I think there are location based suggestions -- but (like you) I've only seen them for apps I already have installed. When in the app switcher, I believe I saw Home Depot app suggested while I was at a Home Depot. I thought that was neat, rather than intrusive.
I'm not entirely sure I get the outrage about app ads in the App Store. I also don't get mad at the existence of end-caps, signs and promotions at the grocery story, either, though. It's a store. But, I'd be infuriated if distracting ads were added to the Dock or Finder, or I had to read past randomly placed ads in menus necessary for every day operation.
It might be how I use my phone. I don’t install many apps, don’t use the weird search shit, and generally just use it for communication and navigation.
When I click your link I immediately see an image with this caption:
> Steve Jobs announces the since-discontinued iAd service in 2010.Photographer: David Paul Morris
Maybe you could clarify what you were trying to say by posting this article? Are you suggesting that apple is engaged in similar behavior to the original post? That the quote about taste from Steve Jobs is ironic given something you took from the article? Did you just find the article relevant and really don’t have anything to say beyond its contents?
> Maybe you could clarify what you were trying to say by posting this article? Are you suggesting that apple is engaged in similar behavior to the original post
Yes. There's plenty of discussion elsewhere in this thread which explains it.
The original quote [1] is nuanced. This claim is trivially true.
Microsoft is a company that says 'yes' to every feature request with no regard for how it comes together as a whole. "Everything and the kitchen sink" is not a bug, it is their MO. They don't shy away from it.
Agreed - iPhone ux is incredible but design is perpetually inoffensive and meh. On the other hand, Microsoft put fucking fabric on their laptops and it’s amazing.
That's like the industrial design version of Seinfeld Isn't Funny. At one point, Apple's sleek unobtrusive design was a revolution compared to 90s and 2000s garishness. And there's something timeless about it.
>"The problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste."
Says nanny. Sorry Steve. I need computer / OS combo to serve my needs. Not to admire. In my opinion with all their flaws Windows fares better and is more versatile for what I do. And Linux runs my business.