[whywhywhywhy]

Hard to think of an argument why they shouldn’t be.

You can argue the raw materials are something they can’t control but plenty of other industries have the same issue, real estate, hiring, and we still pay them on performance.

Think we’d see accepting poor behavior, teachers writing off or actively bullying students tank if this were implemented properly.

[goda90]

A real estate agent or a hiring manager can still walk away from a really bad property, candidate, etc. A teacher can't walk away from a really bad kid (or really bad parents!) without leaving the profession entirely.

[whywhywhywhy]

>A teacher can't walk away from a really bad kid

They do every single day

[sparrish]

Not true. They expel 'really bad kid's every year. It's hard to do but happens.

[dwater]

Teachers do not expel students, administrators or districts do. Teachers have very little recourse for dealing with "really bad kids (or parents)".

[sparrish]

Are you saying Teachers have no input into the process at all?

[goda90]

While they can have input, the goals of the administration and district don't always aline with the goals of the teachers. Teachers want good outcomes for their students. Administration wants to avoid issues that negatively impact budgets, like getting sued by parents.

[whywhywhywhy]

They have input when it’s a success, when it’s not a success it’s everyone’s fault but theirs.

Funny how that happens.