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by pksebben 805 days ago
Here's what I envision (note: impossible with current state of the art)

A model that can be incrementally trained (this is the bit we're missing) hosted by a nonprofit, belonging to "we the people" (like wikipedia).

The training process could be done a little like wikipedia talk pages are now - datasets are proposed and discussed out in the open and once generally approved, trained into the model.

Because training currently involves backpropagation, this isn't possible. Hinton was working on a structure called "forward-forward" that would have overcome this (if it worked) before he decided humanity couldn't be trusted [1]. It is my hope that someone smarter than me picks up this thread of research - although in the spirit of personal responsibility I've started picking up my old math books to try and get to a point where I grok the implementation enough to experiment myself (I'm not super confident I'm gonna get there but you can't win if you don't play, right?)

It's hard to tell when (if?) we're ever going to have this - if it does happen, it'll be because a lot of people do a lot of really smart unpaid work (after seeing OpenAI do what it did, I don't have a ton of faith that even non-profit orgs have the will or the structure to pull it off. Please prove me wrong.)

1 - https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.13345