[abduhl]

We need places where nobody lives to produce things. You cannot farm acres of land where everybody lives, it has to be done where nobody lives. You can’t raise cattle where people live because the cattle has to live there.

I suppose the converse view is that city dwellers are externalizing the cost of their existence and so we should see huge increases in prices for staple goods until rural dwellers are paid appropriately and we have equitable outcomes with respect to mortality between rural and urban populations.

[shiroiushi]

Oh please, not this dumb argument again. Have you actually ever visited or lived in rural American areas? These people are not farmers. Building a road to a farm is fine, but there's a huge network of roads out there just to service non-farmers who choose to live rural lifestyles and expect everyone else to subsidize this lifestyle for them.