[blackbear_]

Even better, I want to pick components from a tool window, move them around and resize them with the mouse and have the code automatically generated for me, if possible well hidden so I don't even have to look at it.

Somehow this was standard twentyfive years ago, how could we have regressed so much?

[bluefirebrand]

We haven't regressed, the code those systems used to generate was a nightmare

We're way better off without them

[wild_egg]

Nightmare generated code is fine if you never have to look at it. This is like saying we shouldn't use react because of the div soup it spits out.

We should be able to have modern tools that don't require spelunking in their output

[darepublic]

I think with the state of llms that we should aim for readable code output. Also react doesn't spit out a div soup, that's totally within the control of the dev