[searchableguy]

Because people will not invite you if you are not in the group chat. Unfortunately, people have forgotten how to call and are afraid of receiving calls.

This is more prominent among people who grew up with social media everywhere compared to ones who did not.

[JoshTriplett]

> Unfortunately, people have forgotten how to call and are afraid of receiving calls.

That's unnecessarily reductionist. Calling is less convenient and takes longer.

[doublerabbit]

> That's unnecessarily reductionist. Calling is less convenient and takes longer.

No, I don't think so. The time for me to ring you, tell you this in voice would be far quicker than typing.

Calling conveys so much more than text ever can.

A call can take seconds, "hey mate, want to go to the cinema tomorrow? Ill text you the time" "yeah cool, see ya".

Voice expresses emotion, you can pick up the mood of your buddy if they're up, down, need cheering up.

Its real, you hear a voice and you know it's your mate. Text, you assume. Text leaves you on edge waiting for confirmation.

The only inconvenience is that you could be interrupting something and even if so, then send a text.

[JoshTriplett]

> The time for me to ring you, tell you this in voice would be far quicker than typing.

The post you I was responding to was talking about "group chat". How long would it take for you to call 6 people? How long would it take for you to text 6 people?

I'm all for calls from one person to another person, if you know that person doesn't mind voice calls. Text and group chats are great for coordination of groups.

[searchableguy]

Apologies. I meant when you are the only person who is not in the group chat or messaging platform, then people won't call you to invite. It is much higher friction.

[doublerabbit]

Then apologies, I didn't clock on to that the discussion was regarding to group chats.

[illegalsmile]

I don't like calling because it's not like it used to be. Everything is so damned asynchronous these days even voice calls where it's supposed to be synchronous. When conversations were over copper/analog, yes I was younger, I enjoyed talking on the phone much more. Back then it felt like whether it was one person or three on the line there was actual presence and you could have two people talking on top of each other no problem.

Now, every conversation, whether it's by phone or zoom, feels like a struggle of who's going to take up the air time, trying not to talk over one another, dealing with delay, etc... It doesn't feel natural at all and there's little to no presence. Having smart phones makes it so much easier to tune out on a call and scroll reddit, check headlines or play a game. I agree that it's less convenient and takes too long for most things. I'd rather check in once a day with someone via text than have one longer phone conversation once a week.

[ryandrake]

If a friend is going to leave you out of an event purely because you do not use their preferred BigTech-facilitated chat tool, then I have some bad news for you: that person might not actually be your friend. Friends don’t treat each other that way.

[desert_rue]

Something that causes some friction might absolutely lead to people treating others this way. Like if coworkers stop by your desk to invite you to lunch but you are in a meeting so they go without you. Should they have left a message? Track you down in the meeting? Waste their lunch time waiting for you? Friction matters in a social context.

[nevom]

For adults, sure. We're talking about children/teenagers, they're all insecure and self-conscious and don't want to hang around with the weird kid because they then become a weird kid by proxy. And the smallest unusualness makes you weird.