[irahul]

> The very best IDEs in the hands of a skilled programmer should produce code better than a similarly skilled programmer who insists on using a dumb text editor.

The very best IDEs produce code at the skill level of dumbest programmers - generating getter-setter, or importing, or wrapping something in try-catch...From the top of my head, I can't think of a single instance where the code produced by IDE can be considered semi-intelligent, let alone at par with code produced by skilled programmer.

And code produced by a skilled programmer using a dumb text editor? A skilled programmer using notepad, eclipse and vim produces different code in all 3?

[FuzzyDunlop]

When I think about this, I think it's actually correct that an IDE produces fairly unintelligent code.

The smarter and more intelligent it gets, the harder it is for the less skilled programmer to edit it.

The skilled programmer can still improve the unintelligent code.

[unimpressive]

>The skilled programmer can still improve the unintelligent code.

In my experience, fixing a crap piece of code (Usually called refactoring.) takes longer than just writing a correct implementation from scratch. In most cases.