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by JonChesterfield 805 days ago
All the dev work at AMD is on our own hardware. Even things like the corporate laptops are ryzen based. The first gen ryzen laptop I got was terrible but it wasn't intel. We also do things like develop ROCm on the non-qualified cards and build our tools with our tools. It would be crazy not to.
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sorenjan 805 days ago
Why isn't AMD part of the UXL Foundation? What does AMD gain from not working together with other companies do make an open alternative to Cuda?

Please make SYCL a priority, cross platform code would make AMD GPUs a viable alternative in the future.

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JonChesterfield 804 days ago
Like opencl was an open alternative? Or HSA? Or HIP? Or openmp? Or spir-v? There are lots of GPU programming languages for amdgpu.

Opencl and hip compilers are in llvm trunk, just bring a runtime from GitHub. Openmp likewise though with much more of the runtime in trunk, just bring libhsa.so from GitHub or debian repos. All of it open source.

There's also a bunch of machine learning stuff. Pytorch and Triton, maybe others. And non-C++ languages, notably Fortran, but Julia and Mojo have mostly third party implementations as well.

I don't know what the UXL foundation is. I do know what sycl is, but aside from using code from intel I don't see what it brings over any of the other single source languages.

At some point sycl will probably be implemented on the llvm offload infra Johannes is currently deriving from the openmp runtime, maybe by intel or maybe by one of my colleagues, at which point I expect people to continue using cuda and complaining about amdgpu. It seems very clear to me that extra GPU languages aren't the solution to people buying everything from Nvidia.

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ZoomerCretin 805 days ago
Yes that's why I qualified "serious" dogfooding. Of course you use your hardware for your own development work, but it's clearly not enough given that showstopper driver issues are going unfixed for half a year.
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FeepingCreature 805 days ago
Way more than half a year. The 7900XTX came out two years ago and still hits hardware resets with Stable Diffusion.
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