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by ta1243
808 days ago
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"to be able to cat and grep" Admitably I learned how to use basic tools 25 years ago, but that's an investment that can be used for decades. cat *web*log | "grep 34.5.22.4" | sort -n | less
is hardly a complex thing to learn. Sure you can then build on that pipeline -- "cut -b -10|uniq -c" and if you want something really complex then you can use awk, or perl, or python, and do all sorts of things with the data.Will whatever today's favoured log query/filter/etc be around in 25 years? Last time I looked at this people were going on about logstash and elasticsearch. Nobody could show me how to to the above command without touching the mouse. Now sure, cat and grep can be sluggish on millions of lines (which is the main reason I'm tempted by loki or similar), and there's always some twat that comes along with "useless use of cat" [0], but the kind of pipeline processing serves me well and it seems a very different way to think about things when you need to access things from a database. Maybe I'm in a local maximum, but it's good-enough for me to find out what's going on. [0] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11710552/useless-use-of-... |
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You have to connect to your server, get to the correct folder, and then run the cats and greps which are easy (if you have to do some more advanced filtering with awk it gets more complicated.)
Connecting to Grafana and running a simple label query is practically the same in terms of complexity and time, but with vastly more features available.
> Will whatever today's favoured log query/filter/etc be around in 25 years? Last time I looked at this people were going on about logstash and elasticsearch. Nobody could show me how to to the above command without touching the mouse.
You can run ElasticSearch queries via the API, and can still do it today. I don't know about, but Loki is a statically compiled binary with only optional external dependencies. You'd still be able to run it in 25 year just fine.