[chipdart]

> But isn't it true that the car did drive itself?

Are you really asking whether the car drove itself in spite of the car's inability to break and accelerate, including stopping on red lights?

[thunky]

By that definition I can retrofit a car to make it FSD with a cinder block.

[chipdart]

Yes, you could. That's the point.

[thunky]

I was agreeing with you.