[FireBeyond]

> but you can only imagine, what kind of accounting shenanigans this guy is doing behind the scenes where nobody can watch, if he's willing to lie so blatantly in the open.

Tesla released advertising in Australia that claimed that they were now the most popular selling car there, outselling the Camry. Which lead to some investigations and (Australia has some strong truth-in-advertising laws) retraction when it was shown that Tesla's definition of "sold" somehow in no way equated to the numbers of vehicles or VINs registered with the varying state databases.

Also note the non-zero numbers of "new" Teslas delivered that have been previously registered and delivered. What do we think the odds are that Tesla subtracts a sale from their numbers on returns?

I fully believe many announcements from Tesla serve no other purpose than to provide a "shield" for unlocking value from the books.