[pjmlp]

> why do almost no lisp people value this?

We do, that is why Cursive exists.

The problem are the folks educated in SBCL + Emacs that never used anything else Lisp related, including the survivors of the Lisp hype wave like Lisp Works and Allegro Common Lisp.

[BaculumMeumEst]

IME Cursive has been very jank. Debugging intermittently fails to trigger on my web projects across multiple machines. It has not been as positive experience as I've had with Racket's IDE (or LispWorks! I love LispWorks!)

The other issue with debugging is perhaps a "me problem", but it's not uncommon for me to have to re-discover where laziness is present in Clojure's ecosystem while debugging. I don't like laziness being implemented on core functions - I think they should be explicitly named alternate functions. Laziness everywhere + "super stable language" = forever annoying. I guess this is only an issue for others who seldom use Clojure as a hobby language - I'm sure people who use daily are able to cope better.

[lispm]

I own LispWorks, I have Symbolics Genera. I've used MCL. I almost never found a stepper to be particular useful to my problems. The other debugging tools were more useful.