[n2d4]

Typical mind fallacy. I personally love paying for things that save me time, and I'm also a developer.

Also, this is kind of their thesis, isn't it? That developers want open-source software to do their billing, which they can modify themselves if they need certain features instead of relying on a proprietary provider like Stripe. Doesn't sound too outlandish to me.

[hitekker]

Nah, I'm developer and also I don't like paying for things.

If anything, the mind fallacy isn't the GP but on the commenters pretending that they love losing money. If we could pay $0 and get everything we want, we would. Everything else is just performative commenting to save face.

[n2d4]

"Typical mind fallacy" = the (subsconscious) assumption that everyone thinks the same way. All I'm saying is that different people have different thresholds for when they buy stuff, even among developers; the best evidence is exactly those commenters you mention who are more willing to spend than you are. (And that's fine!)

[colesantiago]

Everyone uses stripe though which is already 10000x easier than anything out there.

The fact that even Amazon has switched to Stripe shows this.

And that is not even getting into the PCI, PCI DSS, SOC, I and II, etc compliance soup of self hosting.

[chucke]

For payments, not for billing, right? I'd be very surprised otherwise, considering how Stripe's offer for billing is quite inflexible and (at least 6 months ago) offering experimental features.

[simfree]

Stripe is only used for edge cases in Amazon's payment flow, and Amazon tracks how much of its payment flow and what the cost differential between them processing with their direct relationships would be versus Stripe's markup.

Basically, here are the worst of the worst of Amazon's transactions, please take this risk onto Stripe's platform, then we will cut cost with full knowledge of exactly how much we will save by spending developer resources to cut out Stripe for this particular card type in this particular country.

I would not call this a healthy relationship, but rather stripe taking the marginal additional volume that Amazon brings to their platform to net slightly more money and get slightly more data points on weird payment methods.

[Rafsark]

But Amazon uses a custom homegrown usage based billing, not relying on Stripe Billing. This is why Lago exists, to offer a flexible usage-based billing architecture for companies offering usage based or hybrid billing without having to build everything on their own.