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by tomp 809 days ago
Mathematically, if you sell insurance at break even, you're guaranteed to go bankrupt - on an infinite time scale, the "spike" of a random walk martingale (this last word means, it doesn't make a profit) will exceed every level, i.e. it will wipe out any amount of collateral / capital / equity the company might have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_iterated_logarithm

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This is why you have re-insurance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinsurance

If the final insurer is the government, you don't have the risk of ruin because you have control of the money printer.

Reinsurance isn’t magic. This helps with one-off losses, but if you’re fundamentally not able to make a profit, they’re not going to cover you, because all you’ve done is shift the negative expected value to them.
It also probably increases the odds of total ruin... think a Katrina or an Andrew but a bit worse. On a smaller scale, it's never gonna be just one car in a town with hail damage.
It also probably increases
If money printer goes brr… you’re losing, not winning.
What a bunch of nonsense.

If you believe that in an infinite time scale the spike of a "random walk martingale" will exceed every level, then you also believe that you'll go bankrupt even if you don't sell insurance at break even. Maybe mathematically incorrect, but entirely irrelevant in the real world.

IN ADDITION, the money that insurers make isn't just the underwriting profit but also the investment profit. You you're talking twice as much shit as the average HN commenter.

I don’t ”believe” in math, I can prove it.

If you don’t sell at break even, it’s not a martingale, so the Law doesn’t apply.

You can prove mathematical propositions, you obviously can't make truthful conclusions about insurance. And that's really the crucial parts. Anyone can make prove mathematical statements.

Reminds of the guy who lost his keys in the darkness and was looking for the keys under the lamp because that's where he can see. Likewise, you're using your tools and hoping that the tools have some connection to real life.

You sound like one of those "that's all good in practice but it would never work in theory" type of people.

The real world is much more complicated that mathematical models.

But if your business goes bankrupt with probability 100% with even a simplified mathematical model, I wouldn't want to invest in it.