[freedomben]

All pixel phones are very easy to unlock the bootloader, and Google publishes factory images. So if your root goes wrong or you need to revert to stock, it is very easy. The actual process of obtaining root is as easy as it is on any other device, which is to say, I wish it was a lot easier, but it is very doable.

As a bonus, it also opens the door for Graphene OS should you choose to go that direction.

[zamalek]

Pixels can also be re-locked with a custom ROM present (I think Graphene is the only one that does this, though). For that reason alone I'll be transitioning back to Pixel (once this phone is beyond help).

[onli]

CalxyOS is the other one, with less problematic developer history.

[cf100clunk]

Up until your comma the comment suited me just fine, but then... let's not get personal about developers' health issues. It isn't helpful, and there has already been an HN discussion on the topic that you've unfortunately exhumed. There has been great progress at solving problems that had come up during a sad time for GrapheneOS and CalyxOS.

[onli]

I understand that position, but one can also not simply ignore the situation. It'd be okay if the project had removed the maintainer, but they did not, instead he just sabotaged the Mozilla location service discussion while purporting to speak in the name of the Graphene foundation. There is a responsibility to warn users about that risk factor.

[cf100clunk]

GrapheneOS and CalyxOS are great at what they do, and the present situation for both is positive and good. It can be exhausting digging up old interpersonal stuff that does not have a technical bearing on the present, especially as there are/were health and wellbeing issues that are/were at play. Choose to let it go, for once and for all. Peace out.

[onli]

No, that's sadly not true. With the stepping down having been cancelled and the recently repeated paranoid accusations in https://github.com/mozilla/ichnaea/issues/2065#issuecomment-... the present situation of GrapheneOS is far from good, it's an "absolutely do not use and do not recommend the project"-situation. This maintainer being active and continuing his bullying is way too risky for the users of the project (and the FOSS android ecosystem as a whole).

But let's indeed let it be here, it gets OT for the ASUS topic. The GrapheneOS warning just had to be mentioned as it was related to the bootloader re-locking.

[commoner]

CalyxOS has been working well for me and I recommend it. I appreciate how the included microG allows me to disable Firebase Cloud Messaging for any app that I don't need push notifications for. Having push notifications without Google Ads or Google Analytics is great.

[j-bos]

What are the history problems with graphene?

[cf100clunk]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36089104

In tech as in all of life, wellness of those in leadership can be ephemeral and is never to be taken for granted or assumed. I wish good health to all involved.

[tholdem]

I'll judge a tech project on it's technological merits and developers by their technical skills. GrapheneOS is by far the superior choice.

[resource_waste]

No aux port though.

From Electrical Engineering apps to my various current/normal/legacy hardware that uses aux... I don't want to carry around a dongle. Ever. I don't want to attach them to things. I just want my phone to have the $3 peripheral.