[Aaargh20318]

DST is the dumbest thing ever and especially now with global warming. IF you want to move the clock in summer to make things more convenient, move it back an hour, not forwards.

Due to DST we have less time to spend outside in the evenings. The sun stays out much longer, especially here in the more northern part of Europe. With DST, once you get off work it's simply too hot in the direct sunlight to be outside comfortably.

It only gets comfortable outside around 10 in the evening, at which point it's almost time to go to bed. By moving the clock backwards instead of forwards you get 2 additional hours of outside time. Another advantage is that you have a more time for your bedroom to cool down a little before going to sleep.

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I'm not a "capitalism gives you brain worms" kind of person, but the idea that we should literally change the location of the sun in the sky because that's what's most convenient and the hours of work are sacrosanct is always the weirdest take to me.

Why go through all this farrago? There's only one time that really means anything, so have noon at noon (modulo your time zone) and then live your life the way you want.

[throw-the-towel]

Why do you think "noon being at noon" is sacrosanct though? Urban life is not centered at 12:00 any more, you are way more likely to be awake at 8 pm than at 4 am.

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"8PM", like most timekeeping, is a human invention devoid of intrinsic meaning. Noon is the only time that means anything in relation to the world: it's when the sun is directly overhead*. Analog clocks are tiny mechanical sundials for a reason. Have noon (the time) at noon (when the sun is overhead). All else is details.

* - yeah, yeah, in the middle of a timezone, you're very clever if you thought this was a gotcha