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by avidiax 812 days ago
Automatic Content Recognition (ACR), it's called, generically.

https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/how-to-t...

The TV makers don't need ACR when you are using apps on their OS. Those apps all report the currently playing title to the OS maker. ACR is used for when you watch broadcast TV or anything coming in over HDMI.

The margins on TVs are surprisingly small, so being able to show you a few dollars of ads every year dramatically improves that margin, which allows the TV to be either a better value or cheaper compared to other sets you see in the store.

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> The TV makers don't need ACR when you are using apps on their OS. Those apps all report the currently playing title to the OS maker.

That would just tell them what show you saw. With screenshots they can see what was on the screen when you paused the show, what scenes you rewound and re-watched or fast-forwarded through etc.

For example, if you pause a movie on a scene with boobs, they can assume you like boobs. Pause a lot on screens with text, they can assume you're a slow reader (with how long you tend to pause the screen indicating how much you struggle with reading). Maybe you're the kind of person who has to go back and rewatch scenes with heavy exposition or you like to watch violence and gore frame by frame, or you skip through certain shows just to get to the songs/musical numbers. Pause/rewind a lot and it might indicate that you're busy/distracted, but also that you care enough about what you're seeing that you don't just let the content play.

Even if they already have the title of the show being played, not collecting those twice a second screenshots when they have the ability to would be leaving a ton of data on the table.

From what I'm seeing, Roku's ACR does not "take multiple screenshots of whatever is on your screen every second", as claimed.

Furthermore, I'm not seeing whether they do this on their non-TV devices.

Edit: Seems the question is answered here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39950370

It’s somewhat sickening, for essentially making pennies a month per user, all users of the TV have adverts inflicted upon them.

When I need to replace my TV, I will happily pay the extra 10s of dollars for one which will never do this.

It's dollars per month. I have heard that Netflix is not charging enough for their ad-free tier to compensate the lost ad revenue.

Pricing an ad-free tier is a bit problematic. You would think that it should cost simply the ad-revenue per user more. However, since the more the ad free tier costs, the more advertisers would pay to reach those customers, the marginal ad revenue is higher. Someone on a hypothetical $30/mo ad-free tier has high disposable income, and is probably not being impressed by many ads already.