[ysofunny]

as it turns out, there's a better way.

already the AI detects criticism of itself. except its response it's to shadowban you meaning you can continue to post but nobody sees your opinion online.

eventually, you're "bubbled" by AIs.. all your interactions online are surrounded by an AI and you'd think you're interacting with other people when you're just AI-bubbled so to not disrupt the rest of the workers.

you'll still see likes, and other interactions with the social media posts you leave behind, but as a flagged critic of the system, all these interactions are merely faked to keep you calm. as the AI advances you'll even see responses, retweets and other interactions.... all AI driven in order to keep you busy while IBM keeps a calm overwatch over all. the end.

[CapeTheory]

Ridiculous fantasizing - there is simply no way that IBM would be able to build something as good as that.

[ysofunny]

they don't have to, they bought it. or hired it? dunno. for all you know I'm an AI intended to keep you distracted while at the same time you're just an AI bot keeping me occupied with pointless online discussions.

even if neither of us is actually an AI, this interaction will surely aid in training some LLM in the end...

[zelphirkalt]

Maybe some day in the future this will amount to an "organic" way of accidentally building up a simulation of human society, that will be the only thing remaining for some far into the future aliens, who come to visit our planet. And what conclusions they would draw from this.

[pyinstallwoes]

How do you know if you're in the correct reality that isn't predicted by AI?

[CapeTheory]

Maybe that's the new Turing test; true AGI is reached when computers are smart enough to dismiss the possibility of IBM returning to competence. For a warm-up task, ask the AI about a hypothetical scenario involving an honest and ethical Oracle sales rep.

[ysofunny]

this is a really cool question!

i think the only plausible solution is that we don't know but we're just about to find out? as soon as the singularity hits we can ask the AI (...?)

then again, and thinking more broadly, all of life is one giant contest to guess the future, and later, to determine the future by taking precise action

so what you're asking means to try and guess how much of my current reality is predicted by AI (and more generally, by any possibly conscious actor) and how much is wildly unpredictable and chaotic?

[pyinstallwoes]

What if the singularity is in the past?

Yes, loosely I think what you're asking at the end is somewhere slippery that I've been thinking as well. By introducing chaos or randomness in one's life it may be a way to incur computational cost to the "Sentinel AI" that is optimizing for predictive behavior (which humans are pretty predictive day to day).

Oddly this led me to realize that historical magic related to randomness may actually be a "thing" in such a system, and it was kind of a "wow" moment.

tl;dr use randomness to attempt to distort reality and run experiments, if results show anomalies then you may be in a reality at the very least "modulated" by an AI.

[TeMPOraL]

Not today, no. But remember that IBM is critical to SERN due to the importance of IBM 5100 for time travel, so there's a bit of technological back and forth going on within the ~100 year period we happen to be at the center of right now.

[aspenmayer]

Is this a John Titor and/or Steins Gate reference?

[TeMPOraL]

It is both, and also a way of acknowledging that GP's comment points out that the main/only ridiculous fantasy in GGP's comment is that IBM specifically is involved, and not the whole AI part.

I do regret making the joke now, though, given the wider context of the thread.

[aspenmayer]

Art and metaphors are useful tools to illuminate and elucidate. I think you were able to make a good point, and the tonal shift helped situate your comment in juxtaposition to the parents’. My point was not to criticize but to make the reference explicit for those who aren’t familiar with them, and confirm my own assumption regarding your usage, as well.

[more_corn]

Slow clap.

[aatd86]

Could probably implement this on twitter very easily if it hasn't been already.

Or at a higher level, at the ISP level.

Targeted via DNS tunneling and all.

[vintermann]

Twitter doesn't bother being subtle about it. They aggressively bury anyone mentioning a rival platform.

[red-iron-pine]

like the reddit "shadowban", where your comment isn't shown to others but is visible to you in the thread.

fudge the up/down votes to make it look like it's been seen but not reacted to.

but do you need to burn cycles on AI to keep these people engaged? if someone is spamming stuff you don't want seen have them throw out a basic response and then shadowban or just straight-up ban them. if they're very negative bad actor types just give em the boot

[nebula8804]

Wouldn't this bubble system only work if you are on a platform that has it? And you can also easily test to see if you are being "bubbled".

Enough frustrated people will use AI to quickly generate the code for an alternative platform to avoid this bubble system.

It will be individual platforms all the way down...oh wait.

[fy20]

Welcome to the future of racial / political / ideological / social status segregation.

On platforms like Facebook or YouTube where the feed is algorithmically generated and you can't easily view a filtered list of topics (like Reddit) something like this would be very easy.

The interactions don't even need to be generated by AI, it just needs to keep you seeing interactions with other people in your social status circle. And if you try to venture too far outside of that it shadow bans you.

Heck I'd be surprised if the way the news feed algorithms work today they don't already do something like this, as a byproduct of optimising for viewership.

They'd just need to take it a bit further by preventing you from seeing viewpoints outside your circle. So taking the WWII example, people in the Nazi group would not be able to see pro-Ally content. All they'd see about Allies would be content that paints them in a bad light, and vice versa.

[nebula8804]

It is already happening, just recently Instagram pushed out an update to 'quietly' limit political content (ie. pro Palestinian voices) to all users by default without informing them.

[1]:https://time.com/6960587/meta-instagram-political-content-li...