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by drcube 5148 days ago
Anecdote time:

I was in the Army before I went to college, so I didn't graduate until I was 27. I got a 3.8 GPA in electrical engineering, but I was still unemployed for over a year before I got hired as an engineer. It was a pretty disheartening year, and I doubted whether I was worth anything to anybody. I finally got a job through a friend. All the cold calls, resumes and interviews were for naught, I got hired through cronyism.

I have a friend who got a degree in sociology, at the age of 28, by working at a hotel and paying out of pocket for a class or two per semester for a decade. She still works at that hotel, two years later, making just above minimum wage. I thought I had it bad being unemployed for a year, but I had military experience and technical skills that were at least somewhat in demand. She's was looking in the social work field, but now she's just looking for any job with benefits and growth, paycheck or industry be damned.

You could argue that sociology is not a degree you should get if you actually want to work. But this woman was written off as "not college material" by teachers and family alike, mostly because she was socially awkward in high school. She worked her ass off for a decade to put herself through school and I'm proud of her. She's shown more grit and determination than I have, certainly. And yet she's unemployable. Hell, she probably couldn't get that hotel job if she started now, because she's got a degree.

"My anecdotal observations are that the longer people I know waited to get their first job, the longer they've remained unemployed or stuck in dead end jobs."

Who is waiting?? We're talking about people who've been trying to get decent jobs for a long time, and have come up empty. So saying "They should have gotten jobs before" is begging the question. They've been trying all along.

2 comments

What school did graduate from?
That's not cronyism, that's networking (unless your friend was directly responsible for getting you hired).
Well he told the boss to hire me. He didn't hire me personally.

I think there's a fine line between networking and cronyism. Someone off the street ought to be able to get a job without knowing any of the employees. In my experience, that's pretty much impossible these days, even for minimum wage jobs.

That's not cronyism, that's getting a recommendation from someone who knows you. That's valuable information from for someone making a hiring decision.

Cronyism would be getting the job despite a lack of qualifications but due to your relationship with someone at the company.

Most of the jobs I've had have come from people knowing me, knowing my skill set, and keeping me apprised of openings.

> That's not cronyism, that's networking

How would you define the difference?