[VHRanger]

No, but for consumers they're a great offering.

16GB RAM and performance around a 4060ti or so, but for 65% of the price

[_joel]

and 65% of the software support, less I'm inclined to believe? Although having more players in the fold is definitely a good thing.

[VHRanger]

Intel is historically really good at the software side, though.

For all their hardware research hiccups in the last 10 years, they've been delivering on open source machine learning libraries.

It's apparently the same on driver improvements and gaming GPU features in the last year.

[frognumber]

I'm optimistic Intel will get the software right in due course. Last I looked, it wasn't all there yet, but it was on the right track.

Right now, I have a nice NVidia card, but if things stay on track, I think it's very likely my next GPU might be Intel. Open-source, not to mention better value.

[HarHarVeryFunny]

But even if Intel have stable optimized drivers and ML support, it'd still need to be supported by PyTorch/etc for most developers to want to use it. People want to write at high level, not at CUDA-type level.

[VHRanger]

Intel is supported in Pytorch, though. It's supported from their own branch, which is presumably a big annoyance to install, but they do work

[HarHarVeryFunny]

I just tried googling for Intel's PyTorch, and it's clear as mud as to exactly what's run on the GPU and what is not. I assume they'd be bragging about it if this ran everything on their GPU the same as it would on NVDIA, so I'm guessing it just accelerates some operations.