[DoubleDerper]

For those looking: "All participants were taught and instructed to follow a KD, (macronutrient proportion 10 % carbohydrate, 30 % protein, and 60 % fat; at least 5040 kJ). Participants were not instructed to count calories, but to reduce and monitor carbohydrate intake to about 20 g (excluding fiber) per day, eat 1 cup of vegetables per day, 2 cups of salad per day, and were encouraged to drink 8 glasses of water a day."

[smt88]

That seems like a lot of carbs. Would this diet really induce ketogenesis?

[keybored]

What is supposed to be low? In my casual supermarket label reading you seem to get at least some carbs (non-fiber) from things like cauliflower and other greenstuff. I was happy when I could get stuff that all had at most 5g carbs per 100g. But I was doing very informal low-carb and not keto.

[smt88]

Right, I was kind of getting at that: there's a difference between "low" and "low-enough-to-induce-ketogenesis" when it comes to carbs.

For example, the Atkins diet, despite being very low-carb, didn't result in a lot of people accidentally becoming ketogenic.

[keybored]

> Right, I was kind of getting at that: there's a difference between "low" and "low-enough-to-induce-ketogenesis" when it comes to carbs.

But I asked exactly what grams-per-day is low enough for keto.

[dgfitz]

50g

[cal85]

It is a tiny amount, and absolutely it would. Ketogenic diet guides generally suggest aiming for 20-50g carbs per day.

[OnACoffeeBreak]

20 g of net carbs seems to be a common starting point for ketogenesis, but, yeah, I am surprised they didn't confirm with a blood ketone measurement.