[tdudhhu]

While I think freedom is good, I also think there are more people destroying their lives with drugs than people who can regulate their use.

I've seen so many people waste their life on weed and alcohol that I can't be very happy about this news.

[oneeyedpigeon]

> there are more people destroying their lives with drugs than people who can regulate their use

I agree with that for some drugs, but certainly not cannabis. That's observational; there are simply not enough reported cases of problems to make that true wrt cannabis use. Of course, that leaves the possibility that cases aren't reported.

Again, based on personal observation, I would be amazed if the ratio of cannabis users that 'waste their life' on the drug is as high as the ratio of alcohol users that do the same. And that's before you even take into account the harm caused to others.

[jokethrowaway]

I think both are not addictive per se, so it's just people whose life is so bad they just want to tune out all the time.

Alchol is more available so more people are alcholics.

I think cannabis is preferable as it won't destroy your liver and there are ways (vaping, edible) to assume it without wrecking your lungs.

[akdev1l]

Alcohol is extremely addictive and once you are addicted it can cause such strong dependence that people can _die_ from quitting cold turkey.

[tgsovlerkhgsel]

> more people destroying their lives with drugs than people who can regulate their use.

I think you are either intentionally exaggerating, or vastly overestimate the number of people destroying their lives, or underestimate the number of people who use drugs (especially alcohol, consumed by >50% of the US population).

[tdudhhu]

Hidden alcoholism is a huge problem.

There are estimates that 70% of alcohol addiction is hidden.

[nextlevelwizard]

In my mind either you are for legalization of all drugs or you are for criminalization of tobacco, alcohol, and sugar.

Either we have the freedom to consume what we like and deal with the consequences or state has to nanny us and prevent us from consuming harmful substances altogether.

People are fast to point out that prohibition don’t work, but if there were no legal ways to obtain sugar a lot less would be consumed and a lot of weight would be shed by our fat population

[goykasi]

Just imagine if harm and healthiness were actually the determining factor for what is and is not legal. Your comment made me imagine what the political parties might look like in the US. Would conservative and liberals move towards meats vs carbs vs veg?

I wonder if big-Keto would push for harsh penalties to illegal bakers? Maybe a 3 (bread) slices law would rise?

[nextlevelwizard]

>towards meats vs carbs vs veg?

That doesn’t make sense. First in that list you have meat and vegetables which are produce and carbohydrates which are source of calories - i.e. vegetables are constructed partly from carbohydrates.

Sugar is easily the most addictive thing majority of population consumes regularly and it has huge health implications. Banning sugar would disproportionately improve health of human race compared to negative effects of allowing free range over all drugs

[croes]

And still alcohol is legal despite all proven destruction it causes

[Hamuko]

Because it's really hard to take away something that is legal. I don't think that is a good argument for legalising other harmful things.

[nani8ot]

> Because it's really hard to take away something that is legal.

I agree, it is really hard to take something away that is established. About 10% of germans consume Cannabis at least once a year even though it is illegal. [1]

Keeping cannabis illegal has the same effect as prohibition of alcohol: higher substance concentration, more black market and greater health risks by acquisition through dubios sources.

[1] https://internationalcbc.com/what-percentage-of-germanys-pop...

[croes]

A lot less harmful especially for third parties.

[badgersnake]

So is driving.

[croes]

The benefit of driving is mobility, what's the benefit of being drunk?

[badgersnake]

If you’re drinking it purely to get drunk then I’d probably agree with you.

[excircul]

It makes aforementioned mobility more fun /s

[croes]

Tell that the victims of a crash because of DUI

[_ph_]

Alcohol has a much more detrimental effect and still is completely legal (also: any attempt of banning it had quite bad results). So yes, some people don't handle it wisely. Lets not even get started on tobacco. Or all the other substances, which are not drugs but very bad for your health when overconsumed. Like all the sugars, unhealthy fats. Fast food.

We cannot and should not penaltize all these things just because a few cannot handle them. Rather, we should invest into helping and preventing abuse. Of all above.

[newsclues]

People also waste their lives with TV and social media.

Some people are just lazy

[dr_dshiv]

I know you can’t see me, but it really enriched my life. I wish more people knew how to be a virtuous cannabis smoker — it takes some effort

[johnisgood]

Same with many other drugs that has medicinal value, IMO. We can have a war on opioids all we want, but there are people who do need it, right? There will always be people who abuse it, be it cannabis or whatever else. I know for a fact it makes me lazy, so I do not use it.

[brainzap]

Yeah, cannabis is addicting, changes the body and relationships. Its not as visible as other drugs so the word "addiction" is not used.