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by petre 813 days ago
> Anyway I have no idea if cpp2 would get support from microsoft or other devs, but cpp2 seems like the most humble and "least risky" solution for the future of C++, and I really want it to be.

That ship has sailed. They already have C#.
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qalmakka 813 days ago
To be fair C# is vastly different in terms of semantics compared to C++. There's a lot of areas where it's not viable to use C#, and IMHO it also has its own share of legacy and bad decisions from its "Java clone" days that make it impossible to prefer it to C++ sometimes.

Btw Microsoft is definitely interested into adopting new languages, just look all the effort they've been pouring into Rust lately.

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pjmlp 813 days ago
Rust is now the official system programming language for Azure infrastructure, alongside managed languages, and it appears there is a soft spot to use Go instead of C#, when looking at what Azure opens up.

WinDev, Office and XBox is another matter, they are deep into C++ and COM culture.

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flohofwoe 813 days ago
C# is so old by now, if it would be a good replacement for C++ at MS, it would already have replaced it.
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pjmlp 813 days ago
Don't mix technology with the internal politics at Microsoft, where some business units won't use anything else besides COM and C++, no matter what.

They are so strong that they were responsible pushing the whole company into the whole Windows 8 debacle with WinRT, where COM was supposed to finally replace .NET.

https://arstechnica.com/features/2012/10/windows-8-and-winrt...

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barrenko 813 days ago
Java and C# are in their "let's get functional" phase.
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neonsunset 813 days ago
:(

C# has been at that for more than a decade and a half already. Java's arrival to the party is extremely late and still lacking in many areas.

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pjmlp 813 days ago
C# could have been like D back in 2001, yet it had to wait to go open source, away from the wings from WinDev politics, having to provide a replacement to C++/CLI capabilities in a cross-platform way, to finally expose the full CLR to C#, without us having to routinely manually generate MSIL or reach out to C++/CLI.

Singularity and Midori were hardly taken seriously in any form by WinDev.

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