[jimbobimbo]

I'm renovating the house I live in and the closest to smart devices I installed were Caseta plug in dimmers with pico remotes. The rest of dimmers are just hardwired Maestros. Knowing the half life of an internet facing service, the last thing I want is someone pulling the rug from under all my electrical stuff.

Once I tried to enable the app for the washer and dryer and have given up on the app suggesting I disable the firewall for something to connect. No thank you.

[rietta]

Lutron is a good demonstration of a company going about it reasonably. The smarts are in the bridge not the switches and not the bulbs.

For context, Lutron is a client. Though I am just a happy user of the Caseta product at home. I don't have any engineering say in how it was built.

[FloatArtifact]

Can they be interface directly with home assistant without wi-fi?

[rietta]

I am not sure. I do have mine pair with my iPhone using the picture on the label of the bridge. The bridge itself communicates with the dimmers via the same wireless protocol the pico remotes use. The bridge has all the smarts in it for working with apps, doing schedules, etc. My bridge is about 9 years old and is still getting updates. Internally, I am aware that efforts are made to ensure that systems work for 20 years or more.