[xoneill]

That sucks! And fixing reputation is at best a nightmare. I've seen suggestions about purchasing / sending email from other domains - to protect your primary domain. Not something I really care to do.

[cj]

Google themselves recommends sending different types of emails from different subdomains of the primary domain to help Google differentiate between transactional, marketing, newsletters, outbound, etc

Any half decent marketer will 100% use a different domain for outbound sales (or any use case where spam rate might be abnormally high).

[xarope]

absolutely. You should/must separate transactional emails (account creations, password resets etc) from EDM (marketing emails).

[xoneill]

Thank! Will look into this and reconsider.

[nickburns]

i've personally observed an increase in this tactic from both reputable companies' blast communications and marketeers alike.

[77pt77]

The "de facto" solution is to outsource that to Google.

Email on a personal machine and domain has been dead for over 10 years.

You just can't own your data.

You can receive it, no problem. But you can't send it.

[akira2501]

> The "de facto" solution is o outsource that to google.

So, they have a "de facto" monopoly, or at best, are working with other providers to create a cartel.

> Email on a personal machine and domain has been dead for over 10 years.

Due to the actions of?

> You can receive it, no problem. But you can't send it.

You can send it. They're actively deciding to just block you. Then provide you no recourse.

[77pt77]

The monopoly came about "organically". It's not like there was a conspiracy.

> You can send it

Not even that. Nowadays it's not uncommon for some servers to even refuse the connection.

Mind you, I'm not talking about aggressive spammers.

And yes, there's pretty much no recourse.

[akira2501]

> It's not like there was a conspiracy.

I'm not nearly as sure. The mechanics of one aren't that hard to imagine. Encourage spammers and make it cheap. Don't ever fight them at their source. Invoke mechanisms that intentionally destroy public utility in public protocols. Force everyone to rely on a small handful of "reputable" senders.

Working backwards from "who decides reputation anyways?" might make it easier to see.

[dugite-code]

Sending requires quite a large volume for the big players to allow you to play. The only viable option for small servers is to use a SMTP relay service. Amazon's was a pain to get out of the sandbox mode but has been reliable and most importantly free.

As I care more about the recieving side than sending emails this works well enough for me.