[eru]

Real life is full of compromises. If your grandma is on WhatsApp, and you want to talk to her, it might be a good idea to install WhatsApp.

(However, if you have time on your hand and principles, you can use WhatsApp on a burner phone, I guess?)

[14]

Or educate grandma on why she should use signal and that fools use WhatsApp since meta is balls deep inside the app and watching what you do.

[eru]

Sure, if you have time on your hand and principles, you can try convincing your grandma to change her ways.

[1oooqooq]

outside of the imperium center, you'd be lucky to have one provider of some product or service. and usually they will only be reachable via whatsapp. because metabook used whatsbook as a backdoor for for their failed oneinternet(?) project.

remember the backlash fb got when they offered free internet in india and africa but only for the Facebook app?

well, everywhere in the world you get free whatsapp traffic, so everyone now is on whatsapp.

good luck convincing a business who get hundreds of sales call via WhatsApp tobuse signal.

or convincing people who can barely afford their water bill that they now need a data plan to use signal instead of free whatsapp.

metabook won on this.

[xvector]

> metabook won on this.

They won on distributing E2EE and the Signal Protocol to 99% of the world, which previously transmitted everything in plain? Sounds like a pretty good win to me.