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by avidiax 809 days ago
The NSA demands that Intel and AMD provide backdoor ways to turn off the IME/PSP, which are basically a small OS running in a small processor inside your processor. So the precedent is that the government wants less embedded software in their hardware, at least for themselves.

If we relied on gadget vendors to maintain such software, I think we can just look at any IoT or router manufacturer to get an idea of just how often and for how long they will update the software. So that idea will probably backfire spectacularly if implemented.

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What does the IME or PSP do?
Short answer: anything it wants.

IME has privileged access to the MMU(s), all system memory, and even out-of-band access to the network adapter such the the OS cannot inspect network traffic originating with or destined for the IME.

Lots. It's basically an extra processor that runs at all times, even when your computer is supposedly "off." Its firmware is bigger than you'd think, like a complete Unix system big. It's frankly terrifying how powerful and opaque it is. It provides a lot around remote management for corporations, lots of "update the BIOS remotely" sort of features, and also a bunch of those stupid copy protection enforcement things. Plus some startup/shutdown stuff like Secure Boot.