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by jtriangle 808 days ago
25 years for stealing billions, life for running a website where people broke the law.

Justice inc.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht

> The evidence that Ulbricht had commissioned murders was considered by the judge in sentencing Ulbricht to life and was a factor in the Second Circuit's decision to uphold the sentence.

If this is what you are referring to...

Commissioning murders makes him quite a dangerous person.

My understanding was that that wasn't proven in the case, or part of the charges? Making it pretty messed up that it's what drove sentencing
In fairness, even 25 years is more than they give the average murderer.

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-pu...

You could quite reasonably argue that SBF's sentence was, if anything, excessive. And, by extension, that Ulbricht's was simply grotesque.

Sam Bankman-Fried defrauded people. He didn’t intentionally create a digital black market, where everything from hit jobs, narcotics, poison, weapons, and human trafficking could (and were) conducted.

And since there are many well-known marketplaces for legal activities (eBay, Craigslist, Kijiji, Facebook Marketplace, AutoTrader.com, need I go on?) then the only defining feature was that this was a black market.

One cannot “accidentally” do this. So yes, aiding and abetting countless crimes and possibly murder —> life sentence.

In that context do you still find it unjust?

It’s not about justice. It’s all about who you know.
More like they robbed rich, which is no-no. Robbing poor is ok.
Are you comparing FTX to Silk Road?
...didn't the Silk Road guy (which is what I assume you're referencing) also hire assassins to attack his criminal-enterprise opponents?
Was he convicted of that?
He "hired" an FBI agent to kill another (non existing) FBI agent after being extorted and lied to by an FBI agent.

But keep repeating the "truth" til it becomes facts.

Remember the autistic kids that get set up by the FBI?

That, but virtually.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding but are you suggesting that because he unknowingly hired a fake assassin, it’s not as bad of a crime?
I mean, the transcripts don't look great even if it turns out that he was actually talking to a FBI agent who never actually did anything about it:

> Dread Pirate Roberts 3/31/2013 8:59: Don't want to be a pain here, but the price seems high. Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for $80k. Are the prices you quoted the best you can do?

https://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-bos...

now do and calcualte how many years Sam Trabucco of alameda got? hint, first word is z