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Market dynamics. Since use of better AIs confers advantages, they will be improved. No set of players will be able to stop this because the incentives are so strong for others to continue using and developing them. The best we can hope for is AIs that are not misled.

Sometimes you have to work with the tide, because fighting it is futile and even self defeating.

[starbugs]

> Sometimes you have to work with the tide, because fighting it is futile and even self defeating.

Said the fish before approaching the waterfall.

While I agree that the incentive structure is set up in a strong way for AI to be further improved and rolled out, what's the endgame here? Who can build the most powerful centralized AI so that nearly everyone else is out of a job? And who is that going to benefit?

I just don't get it.

Have we all decided to "just play the game" and ignore how dumb it is?

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The endgame is the singularity, which, by definition, offers no clear view of the future.

I don’t see any effective way to fight it other than joining it. Any well intentioned steps can be easily and even unintentionally subverted by other players who have different perspectives on the ethical landscape.

It’s not that we have decided. Others will decide for us regardless of our decision.

[starbugs]

> I don’t see any effective way to fight it other than joining it.

How do you fight it by joining it?

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Yeah I butchered that expression a bit. I mean that if we participate we at least have a higher likelihood of helping to steer things and continuing to be relevant going forward.