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by winter-day 809 days ago
The sankey diagrams here are interesting, and a trend I haven't experienced, but have seen mentioned on /r/cscareerquestions quite frequently. As a Cal grad, cold applications have always worked for me, but it seems OP and newer grads are having a tougher time. I'm curious if Cal/top university grads are getting the recycling bin from cold applications as well (I also have 15+ yoe now, but it's never been an issue).

Also for new grads, the best advice I can give you: join a fortune 500 company. Startups are extremely cut throat and volatile, esp. in this environment where everything is under scrutiny, interest rates are high, etc. If you can get into a FAANG, Pintrest, xyz and climb the ladder, it's likely better than being taken advantage of at a startup - which I've seen more often times than not.
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kyawzazaw 809 days ago
It's the year. I had cold applications too and worked in 2022. And I wasn't a UC Berkeley graduate which I believe is very well-know Computer Science school.

> Also for new grads, the best advice I can give you: join a fortune 500 company.

I think the problem is not that the new grads are not applying. They simply are not getting a chance. It's not a matter of choosing between F500 and startups.

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65 809 days ago
You are suggesting new grads attempt to get a FAANG job, which is 1. what every new grad is already trying to do and 2. extremely competitive.

Maybe if you went to an elite university and live in the Bay Area, but realistically I'd suggest new grads apply to non-tech companies.

Not every developer job is at a software company.

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