[moondev]

Mac mini 2018 is still the best Mac for vms

   6 cores 12 threads
   64GB DDR
   nvme
   4 thunderbolt3 ports for pci expansion
   10GbE onboard nic
   boots ESXi
   boots Proxmox
   boots or virtualizes windows
   boots or virtualizes linux
   boots or virtualizes macos
   iGPU passthrough
   Supports nested virt

[greggsy]

If you’re just running a bare metal hypervisor then you may as well just go for a second hand tiny form factor platform. No point paying 15-20% extra for the same specs in a svelte case if you’re not running native macOS.

[moondev]

> No point paying 15-20% extra for the same specs in a svelte case if you’re not running native macOS.

The main point is proper non-hackintosh support for running (unlimited amount) of macOS vms on esxi - which requires Apple hardware. Running macOS, Windows and Linux on the metal is another benefit. IMO it's almost as versatile as a framework chromebook (chromeos, crostini, kvm, android with play store)