[linuxdude314]

This looks like way more work than just using a spreadsheet.

Kanban don’t seem like the right abstraction for financial planning.

How does this actually prevent budget overrun when nothing is automated? It seems like the data is only accurate if someone correctly enters it and drags the boxes into the appropriate columns.

The app looks nice, but this feels like a solution in search of a problem.

You could easily pivot to project management and you’d have a very nice looking product. Ditch the budget stuff, it doesn’t work.

[cjk2]

Yeah this. After futzing with Excel for over a decade, I switched to GNUcash and the budgeting didn't work, then two other commercial products which didn't work, then I tried to design a product which would solve the problem and that didn't work either. So here I am back on a spreadsheet.

The problem is sometimes things aren't ideal or simple to represent. A spreadsheet forms no restrictions so you can ad-hoc futz with split transactions and all sorts without shooting yourself or getting stuck. Every other way of handling this is just pain and friction.

[eddd-ddde]

Do you have a template you could recommend? I have really tried to fit my records into spreadsheets and I just never seem to get something working for some reason. I think my brain is just not wired up for spreadsheets.

[cjk2]

Fairly simple.

One sheet per pay cycle / month labelled accordingly.

One column for Transaction name, one for each account. I have two bank accounts and a credit card.

First row is the summary header which contains the sum of each column (balance), The second row is the column titles, the third row is the starting balance for each of the accounts at the date that the period starts.

All transactions are listed one per row. Name the transaction "shopping" and put the amount as a negative value in the relevant account column. If you are given money it's a positive amount instead. If you transfer money between accounts you put a minus in one column and a positive in the other one.

All reconciled transactions are marked with green background. All waiting for reconciliation transactions (just spent the money) are marked with a yellow background.

All budgeted items are added as rows at the start of the period as formulas so for example in my case `"food", "=-350"`. If I spend something on food, say `"corner shop", "-8.90"` and this value lands in cell B16, then the food budget item is changed to `"food", "=-350-B16"`. This reduces the food budget. The column sum balance doesn't change.

Been using this for about 5 years now. It's currently residing in Apple Numbers because I'm too cheap to pay for Excel and I have an iPad and it works entirely offline so I can use it when travelling to keep an eye on spending.

Once you have regular budget items identified keep a "template" sheet and just duplicate that at the start of the period/month or whenever. Mine has: approx salary, rent, taxes, internet, mobile phone, subscriptions, food, energy and travel budgets on it.

[eddd-ddde]

Wow this is great! Thanks so much for the detailed instructions!

Will definitely give this a try later today.

[gala8y]

This twice. Spreadsheet means flexibility.

[JustroX]

Thanks for the feedback cjk2! I'm curious which industry you work on?

[JustroX]

Thanks for your feedback! I've been using Kanban for managing my finances for months, which inspired me to create this product. I'm addressing my own needs and it's working well for me. If others find it helpful too, that's great! And if not, I'm confident that Budget Kanban won't get in their way of managing their budget using their own tools