[swalsh]

The models are commodities, and the API's are even similar enough that there is zero stickiness. I can swap one model for another, and usually not have to change anything about my prompts or rag pipelines.

For startups, the lesson here is don't be in the business of building models. Be in the business of using models. The cost of using AI will probably continue to trend lower for the foreseeable future... but you can build a moat in the business layer.

[spxneo]

Excellent comment. Shows good awareness of economic forces at play here.

We are just going to use whatever LLM is best fast/cheap and the giants are in an arms race to deliver just that.

But only two companies in this epic techno-cold war have an economic moat but the other moat is breaking down inside the moat of the other company. The moat inside the moat cannot run without the parent moat.

[rayval]

Intriguing comment that I don't quite follow. Can you please elaborate?

[stolsvik]

Probably OpenAI running on Azure. But it was still convoluted.

[stri8ed]

Or be in the business of building infrastructure for AI inference.

[cheselnut]

Is this not the same argument? There are like 20 startups and cloud providers all focused on AI inference. I'd think application layer receives the most value accretion in the next 10 years vs AI inference. Curious what others think

[sparks1970]

Or be in the business of selling .ai domain names.

[sroussey]

Embeddings are not interchangeable. However, you can setup your system to have multiple embeddings from different providers for the same content.

[jimmySixDOF]

There are people who make the case for custom fine tuned embedding models built to match your specific types of data and associations. Whatever you use internally it gets converted to the foundation model of choice's formats by their tools on the edge. Still Embeddings and the chunking strategies feeding into them are both way too underappreciated parts of the whole pipeline.

[swalsh]

Embeddings are indeed sticky, I was referring to the LLM model itself.

[esafak]

That's not what investors believe. They believe that due to training costs there will be a handful of winners who will reap all the benefits, especially if one of them achieves AGI. You can tell by looking at what they've invested most in: foundation models.

[phillipcarter]

I don't think I agree with that. For my work at least, the only model I can swap with OpenAI and get similar results is Claude. None of the open models come even close to producing good outputs for the same prompt.