[parpfish]

yeah, the classism in the "poor/uneducated people are having too many kids!" always has this assumption that class and values are perfectly presevred across generations and ignores the social mobility and the fact that children are capable of making their own path and not just following in their footsteps.

children raised in big families by uneducated, closed-minded parents often rebel against their parents and espouse different views. just look at any subreddit that has youths are complaining about the backwards views of the parents/uncles/grand-parents -- i know it's not a representative sample, but children challenging their elders views is not an anomaly.

on the flipside, there's the trope of only children raised being raised by high-class, open-minded families turning into spoiled, selfish brats.

[vel0city]

Of the big households I've personally experienced that most would consider closed-minded parents might have a few of their kids complaining about the backwards views, but not necessarily the majority of the kids. I'd be interested in seeing some actual statistics other than assuming the people ranting on reddit about their families are the majority of that population.

The kids who agree with their closed-minded parents probably aren't going online to rant about it.

[parpfish]

yeah, that's why i said it wasn't a representative sample.

the subreddit threads don't prove that these views are a majority, just that they are a non-zero proportion.

[kelipso]

But then you say "children raised in big families by uneducated, closed-minded parents often rebel against their parents and espouse different views". So non-zero proportion becomes often...