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by nickspag 822 days ago
Bicep is fantastic. But it compiles to ARM, so it's still limited by ARM's weaknesses and gaps, in addition to the underlying general instability of Azure and the inconsistencies from the Resource Providers. As well, Bicep is declarative- which is elegant in theory, but the stateful design of Terraform can cover up some of those underlying ARM/Azure gaps in practice. The deployment stacks approach on Azure should help further, but there's still a long way to go.
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k8svet 822 days ago
This just makes it even more asinine that they had to invent their own language. I'm sure I'd be just as productive with Nix and builtins.toJSON. At least they didn't do jsonnet, eh?
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FridgeSeal 822 days ago
MS/Azure just seems to have this weird obsession with Not-Invented-Here-ing things that didn’t need to be nih-ed, and their solutions are often…extraordinarily Microsoft.

“Use our weird language, to interact with our awful, slow API’s, nobody else uses it, our support probably doesn’t know it exists, and it’ll be full of weird, MS culture specific idioms and eldritch code that compiles down into our previous failed experiment”

Like, no? No thank you, can’t you just be normal?

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k8svet 822 days ago
Do they support ed25519 ssh keys yet? Just hard to take 'em seriously.
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pjmlp 821 days ago
As if other cloud offerings were any different in behaviour and tooling.
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k8svet 821 days ago
Azure is straight up full of fucking clowns.

https://github.com/Azure/AzureVM/issues/26

This is not a serious platform: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/azure/virtual...

Can you begin to imagine how fucked up Compute is internally that this shit remains true for 6+ years? VMSS was an entire nightmare that someone tried to point out was a mistake that AWS and GCP brilliantly avoided. Sure enough, now the product is confusing and even further internally fractured by supporting both deployment models.

Sorry, having been on the inside of a couple places and a user of all of them, Azure comes in last place every single time.

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nickspag 821 days ago
I don't know if I'd go that far. It's pretty easy to go from ARM to Bicep. And Bicep is genuinely better at everything ARM does and has a wider breadth of features as a DSL- and that is genuinely valuable. It was always going to have to be back compatible/compile to ARM: moving off it has to start somewhere.

re: nix, it does infra?

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