[nkrisc]

Really just depends on the product and feature and the company culture. Submenus don't work when the feature has a powerful internal sponsor and they want it front and center.

[MichaelZuo]

Then you can still put the features that have weaker ‘internal sponsors’ there.

[nkrisc]

And then people complain on HN about “UX designers” hiding their most used tools in submenus, and the cycle is complete.

[MichaelZuo]

No, because even having something buried in a submenu is different from it not existing at all.. do you not understand what a submenu means?