[swasheck]

i think “disaster” is hyperbole. my brain thinks in concert with sql so it feels natural, though i will concede that the parsing/syntax order differences was an odd choice.

programmers and language users all have a mental translation layers that they use to go from conceptual->concrete using the syntax and idioms of their language of choice.

javascript doesn’t make sense in a lot of ways. calling it a disaster is hyperbole. go doesn’t make sense in a lot of ways. it’s not a disaster. unfamiliarity or disagreement with choices does not necessarily mean it’s a disaster

the only language with which i’m familiar that is a complete, unmitigated disaster is the english language, but i suppose that’s outside of the scope of this conversation

[runlaszlorun]

> the only language with which i’m familiar that is a complete, unmitigated disaster is the english language

Out of curiosity, are you a native speaker of english or did you learn it as a second language?

I’m a native speaker and feel sorry for anyone who has to learn all its irregularities, etc. But the few times I’ve mentioned this to anyone who had to learn as a second language, they’d correct me and tell it was easy. Which baffled me.

Obviously as a native speaker, I’m in no place to judge it.

[rqmedes]

SQL syntax seems how humans communicate to me. Can you pass me that cup from the cupboard

[alexvoda]

SQL syntax is only on the surface level similar to natural language. Besides, if we actually considered similarity to English to be an important criteria for a programming language, we would all still be using Cobol.

[lIIllIIllIIllII]

this totally depends on which language the human speaks. Chinese grammar is kind of like backwards English grammar.

[swasheck]

native english speaker. learned german (fluent) and italian (conversational). english is an insane amalgamation which may be why it’s become near lingua franca